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    Osho Rajneesh Book "The Tantra Vision, Vol 2"

    The Tantra Vision, Vol 2

    Freedom is a higher Value
    2 May 1977 am in Buddha Hall

    Question 1


    The first thing: There are two kinds of love. C.S. Lewis has divided love into these two kinds:
    ’need-love’ and ’gift-love’. Abraham Maslow also divides love into two kinds. The first he calls
    ’deficiency-love’ and the second he calls ’being-love’. The distinction is significant and has to be

    The ’need-love’ or the ’deficiency-love’ depends on the other; it is immature love. In fact it is not truly
    love – it is a need. You use the other, you use the other as a means. You exploit, you manipulate,
    you dominate. But the other is reduced, the other is almost destroyed. And exactly the same is
    being done by the other. He is trying to manipulate you, to dominate you, to possess you, to use
    you. To use another human being is very unloving. So it only appears like love; it is a false coin. But
    this is what happens to almost ninety-nine per cent of people because the first lesson of love that
    you learn is in your childhood.

    A child is born, he depends on the mother. His love towards the mother is a ’deficiency-love’: he
    needs the mother, he cannot survive without the mother. He loves the mother because mother is
    his LIFE. In fact, there is no love; he will love any woman – whosoever will protect him, whosoever
    will help him to survive, whosoever will fill up his need. The mother is a sort of food that he eats. It
    is not only milk that he gets from the mother, it is love also – and that too is a need.

    Millions of people remain childish all their lives; they never grow up. They grow in age, but they
    never grow in their minds; their psychology remains juvenile, immature. They are always needing
    love. They are hankering for it like food.

    Man becomes mature the moment he starts loving rather than needing. He starts overflowing,
    sharing; he starts giving. The emphasis is totally different. With the first, the emphasis is on how
    to get more. With the second, the emphasis is on how to give, how to give more, and how to give
    unconditionally. This is growth, maturity, coming to you.

    A mature person gives. Only a mature person can give, because only a mature person has it. Then
    love is not dependent. Then you can be loving whether the other is or is not. Then love is not a
    relationship, it is a state.

    What will happen if all the disciples disappear and only I am here? Do you think there will be any
    change? What happens when a flower blooms in a deep forest with nobody to appreciate it, nobody
    to know its fragrance, nobody to pass a comment and say ’beautiful’, nobody to taste its beauty,
    its joy, nobody to share – what happens to the flower? It dies? It suffers? It becomes panicky? It
    commits suicide? It goes on blooming, it simply goes on blooming. It does not make any difference
    whether somebody passes by or not; it is irrelevant. It goes on spreading its fragrance to the winds.
    It goes on offering its joy to God, to the whole.

    If I am alone, then too, I will be as loving as when I am with you. It is not you who are creating my
    love. If you were creating my love, then naturally, when you are gone, my love will be gone. You are
    not pulling my love out – I am showering it on you: it is ’gift-love’, it is ’being-love’.

    And I don’t really agree with C.S. Lewis and Abraham Maslow. The first love that they call ’love’ is
    not love, it is a need. How can a need be love? Love is a luxury. It is abundance. It is having so
    much life that you don’t know what to do with it, so you share. It is having so many songs in your
    heart that you have to sing them – whether anybody listens or not is not relevant. If nobody listens,
    then also you will have to sing it, you will have to dance your dance.

    The other can have it, the other can miss it – but as far as you are concerned, it is flowing, it is
    overflowing. Rivers don’t flow for you; they are flowing whether you are there or not. They don’t flow
    for your thirst, they don’t flow for your thirsty fields; they are simply flowing there. You can quench
    your thirst, you can miss – that’s up to you. The river was not really flowing for you, the river was
    just flowing. It is accidental that you can get the water for your field, it is accidental that you can get
    water for your needs.

    A Master is a river, the disciple is accidental. The Master is flowing; you can partake, you can enjoy,
    you can share his being. You can be overwhelmed by him, but he is not FOR you. He is not flowing
    for you in particular, he is simply flowing. Remember this. And this I call mature love, real love,
    authentic love, true love.

    When you depend on the other there is always misery. The moment you depend, you start feeling
    miserable, because dependence is slavery. Then you start taking revenge in subtle ways, because

    the person you have to depend upon becomes powerful over you. Nobody likes anybody to be
    powerful over them, nobody likes to be dependent; because dependence kills freedom, and love
    cannot flower in dependence. Love is a flower of freedom – it needs space, it needs absolute space.
    The other has not to interfere with it. It is very delicate.

    When you are dependent, the other will certainly dominate you, and you will try to dominate
    the other. That’s the fight that goes on between so-called lovers; they are intimate enemies –
    continuously fighting. Husbands and wives – what are they doing? Loving is very rare; fighting is
    the rule, loving is an exception. And in every way they try to dominate – even through love they try
    to dominate. If the husband asks the wife, the wife denies – she is reluctant. She is very miserly:
    she gives, but very reluctantly; she wants you to wave your tail around her. And so is the case with
    the husband. When the wife is in need and asks him, the husband says that he is tired. In the office
    there was too much work, ’really overworked’, and he would like to go to sleep.

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